Buy a tape measure, will you!

Why is it so hard to get accurate measurements from equestrians? Recently I wrote about buying a saddle on eBay that was not the size claimed in the listing.

The experience brought to mind a joke that I read a month or so ago, I believe it was on COTH but don’t hold me to it.

The joke was: Why can’t women parallel park? Because men have been telling them that 5″ is really 10″.

I feel that way about the saddle. But on reflection I realized that in the equestrian world, an inch or so one way or the other is often glossed over. Of course, it’s not just women who can’t measure. Everyone seems to have fallen into the super sizing trap.

The most accurate way to measure a horse is with a measuring stick. Stand your horse on level ground and place the top of the stick over the withers.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone to see a horse for sale that was advertised as 16.2 only to find that it was maybe 15.3 if it was standing on a hill next to you. Or, maybe it was 16.2 at the withers, but it’s back was 15.2.

Is it wishful thinking? People know that taller horses often fetch higher prices. I suppose that some people inflate their horse’s height because they think it will attract prospective buyers; other have never measured their horse and just guess too big. But size is not something you can fake for long.

When an eBay saddle doesn’t live up to expectations.

I’ve bought and sold a lot of saddles on eBay. It’s my way of feeding my “addiction”. I’ve written before on how to avoid getting scammed on eBay, but truth be told, even I buy the occasional lemon.

Recently a saddle caught my eye that I thought I might use for hacking out. As someone with an usually long femur, I’m always on the look out for saddles with extra long or extra forward panels. I don’t always like to ride in a xc saddle and this one looked like  it had potential. It was an older saddle made in Walsall England. Here’s the auction page and description:

Here's the description of the saddle that I bought.

At under $200, I figured it wouldn’t break the bank.

The saddle arrived and yes, it’s a nice older saddle. The problem is that isn’t exactly as it was described.

Problem #1 – It is not an 18.5″ seat. It’s an 18″. Now that might not be a huge deal for a lot of people but I buy a larger seat size so that I have a place to put my 22″ femur. Seriously, folks, if you’re going to sell a saddle, it’s not that hard to measure it correctly.

The seat size of an English saddle is measured from the button to the middle of the cantle. This saddle is clearly an 18" saddle.

But that’s not the only thing that wasn’t accurately described. The seller wrote, “It appears to be a medium tree – a little medium wide.” That would have been perfect for Freedom. Except, that the saddle is actually on the narrow side of medium. While you can fix a saddle that’s slightly too wide using pads with shims (like the Mattes pad or Thinline pad), there’s nothing you can do with a saddle that’s too narrow. Especially when the saddle has foam panels like this one.

This saddle was described as a medium to medium-wide tree. However, when you measure the points of the tree you can see that it's actually a medium to medium-narrow: it's less than 5".

As for the panels, the seller repeatedly says that the “flocking” is in good condition. Shame on me, I didn’t ask specifically if the panels were wool because flocking implies wool. Foam panels are foam panels; they are not flocked. I assumed that a nice older English saddle would have wool panels but that wasn’t the case. The panels are in nice condition but they are definitely foam. Once again, if the saddle had been a medium wide, the construction might not have made a difference because it could have been padded to fit.

Don’t make my mistakes

So, learn from the mistakes that I made. When you buy a saddle on eBay, it’s important that you ask enough questions to verify what’s written in the ad. Since this saddle was being sold by a riding instructor for one of her students, I assumed that she’d measured the saddle correctly, assumed that she knew how a medium or medium-wide tree fit, and assumed that she knew that foam panels are not flocked!

  • Always ask for a photograph that shows someone measuring the seat size of the saddle.
  • Always ask for a measurement that shows the distance between the points of the tree.
  • Always confirm that a saddle is flocked with wool (if you care about that).
  • Never assume that the seller knows what they are talking about even when they write a pretty good description.

I don’t think that the seller was trying to intentionally misrepresent the saddle but she did. A saddle sold as an 18.5″ with a tree on the larger size of medium is not the same as a saddle that has an 18″ seat and fits on the narrow side of medium. It’s just like buying a pair of shoes that is advertised as size 11 wide and getting a pair that’s a 10 1/2 narrow. The shoes (and the saddle) don’t fit.

I’ve told the seller that she should take the saddle back and refund my shipping. I haven’t heard back from her. I’ve sold a lot of saddles on eBay and that’s what I’d do if I found out I’d inadvertently misrepresented any item. I’d pay for the return shipping, too. Update: I did hear back from the seller who is sorry that I do not like the saddle but said she is not in a position to take it back since she sold it for a student who has already used the money to buy a new saddle. I can’t punish the student . . . so I’ll keep my fingers crossed that I get my money out. In the meantime, I will consider it research for my blog :) .

I’ve actually relisted the saddle on eBay. It’s not a bad saddle. I’ll probably get my money back if I end up reselling it. And the next buyer will have the advantage of having the right information in the description!

Related articles:

Avoiding eBay Saddle Scams

Tips for buying a used saddle.

Amazing gold horse head on display for first time in 1400 years

This gold horse is likely from the 7th century. It hasn't been seen in public for 1400 years!

A beautifully detailed golden horse’s head which not been seen in public for 1400 years is part of an upcoming exhibition of about 80 artifacts from the biggest hoard of Anglo-Saxon gold ever found.The piece forms part of the so-called Staffordshire Hoard, a 1500-piece collection of treasure, crafted from mostly gold, and some silver.

The solid gold horse is about two inches tall and covered with an intricate filigree pattern. It is in almost perfect condition. Most of the items in the collection appear to date from the 7th century although it is not yet known when the hoard was buried.
I have to say that I find ancient gold artifacts like this one enormously attractive. When my daughter and I visit museums we make a bee line for ancient gold and something of this quality would have us drooling outside the case.

The details on this gold artifact are amazing!

It goes on display at the Potteries Museum and Art Gallery in Stoke-on-Trent between 13 February and 7 March.

Unbelievably, this cache of artifacts was only discovered in 2009 so there is still hope that more is out there!

The flags of dressage are at half mast today for Blue Hors Matiné

Blue Hors Matiné made dressage look joyful.

The sensational dressage mare Blue Hors Matiné has been put down today after breaking her leg in turnout.

The 13-year old mare energized the dressage world with her amazing grand prix freestyle performance at the
2006 World Equestrian Games in Aachen with rider Andreas Helgstrand. She was a true joy to watch. Even my husband, who thinks watching dressage is like watching paint dry showed me her video. In it she danced. She floated. She had so much expression that she inspired.

Blue Hors Matiné was pregnant with her first foal at the time of her accident. Sadly, the foal also did not survive.

Blue Hors Matiné brought magic to dressage. She will be sorely missed.

Enjoy her Aachen performance below.

Colic education from an unusual source

I don’t know how these vet students from Auburn University in Alabama had time to make these commercials but they are both educational and entertaining!

For more information on colic, what causes it, symptoms and treatment read:

It’s Colic Season – What can you do?

Are you a member of over-supplementation anonymous?

So many supplements from which to choose!

Walk into a tack store or open an equine catalog and the choice for supplementation are staggering. Supplements are available to enhance shine, build hoofs, lubricate joints, improve digestion, give energy or calm them down, increase muscles, boost immune systems, gain weight, and more! For almost anything you can imagine there are multiple choices with a range of ingredients that manufacturers suggest will make your horse look better, perform better and feel better.

It’s easy to fall prey to the advertising because most of us want to do the best for our horses. And, let’s face it, we’d all like to think that sprinkling pixie dust on our horse’s feed will make him easier to ride, more talented and better looking.

I’ll raise my hand and admit that I’ve been a card-carrying member. The urge to add supplements to my horse’s feed came when I first moved him to a co-op barn. I had never been responsible for creating a feeding regime and honestly, I didn’t have a clue.

At the full service barn where I’d had him they were feeding him 8 quarts of pellets and 1 quart of oats per day. It was a custom milled pellet so I wasn’t even sure what was in it! All I knew was that compared to the other horses at the barn my horse was being fed vastly more.

At the full service barn I didn’t feed any supplements because they charged you an additional fee to add them to the grain. However, since I had a lot of learning to do about feeding horses I also started looking into feel better/look better supplements.

To begin with I added a coat/hoof supplement. I liked the results. My horse’s coat looked shinier, his tail grew longer and his hooves, which had always been fine, stayed fine. Then I read about pro-biotics. It sounded like a good idea so I added it. Then I read the back label on a supplement full of sea kelp and micro nutrients so I added that. I started feeding beet pulp as a way to increase my horse’s forage intake and I experimented with a number of feeds.

Finally I decided to do what I should have done first: I called an equine nutritionist. He came to my barn and looked at my horse (who was now eating significantly less than 9 quarts per day) and made some startling proclamations.

He explained that the basis for my horse’s diet was forage and he provided a general overview of the hay in the Northeast such as typical protein levels and regional deficiencies.

He suggested that while my horse was getting enough calories, he might not be getting enough nutrients. My horse was an easy keeper so to keep the total calorie intake a level that would keep him svelte, he recommended that I add a ration balancer to a moderate portion of the pelleted feed.

He pointed out that the ration balancer and feed together provided all the nutrients needed so that additional “micronutrients” where neither required nor desired. Since the feed included a probiotic, that didn’t need to be fed separately, either.

I kept the flax based hoof and coat supplement.

The end result? My horse looked and felt great. My wallet felt heavier. I turned in my membership card to oversupplementation anonymous and kept his card instead.

Supplements are not bad. Some can help. Some make you feel better, rather than your horse. What I learned was to base my decision on nutritional principles rather than on the promotional labels on the back of the packages.